Just on Morning Report, saying:

“Energy minister, David Parker, believes this country can, in the longer term, become self-sufficient”

[EDIT – just had another three minutes on the report, with one of the panel members being very to the point. David Parker said some sensible things but made no promises yet, Russel Norman called the report positive and raised a point about the importance and need for independent scientific advice for government, i.e. us. Cheers Russel, you’ll find the envelope full of used bills in the usual place.]